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  Abusers and Abusees love the org...

  by tall penguin in

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  in my experience, those who become jw's as adults (not born in) could be described as abusers or abusees.

  more often than not, they have unresolved issues of abuse from their past and gravitate to the structure of the org to re-experience the controlling, abusive environment of their past as the victim or the perpetrator.

  from what i've seen, the more these past abuse issues are dealt with, the less of a hold the org has on a person.

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  Thanks for all of the great comments.
  Big Tex, I like your theory. I have found the same to be true in my experience.
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  Why don't Dub families have pets?

  by MinisterAmos in

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  out of a dozen or so dub families that live near me i can only think of one with a dog.

  at mt ex-congo, i only knew of two families with pets, dogs/cats.

  the non-dub pet owning percentage around me is near 100%.

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  One of my friends had a dog growing up. It was her dad's pride and joy. When the dog died, he took it really hard. He was depressed for a long time. The elders told him to get over it because dogs won't be resurrected. To this day, this jw holds to the belief that the promise that jehovah will "satisfy the desire of every living thing" means that his dog will indeed be with him in paradise, because that's his only desire. I sometimes wonder if it's the main reason he stays in the org.
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  Abusers and Abusees love the org...

  by tall penguin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my experience, those who become jw's as adults (not born in) could be described as abusers or abusees.

  more often than not, they have unresolved issues of abuse from their past and gravitate to the structure of the org to re-experience the controlling, abusive environment of their past as the victim or the perpetrator.

  from what i've seen, the more these past abuse issues are dealt with, the less of a hold the org has on a person.

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  Thanks Star Moore for your comments. It is interesting indeed.
  Maryjane: "Today I still struggle with depression/self-esteem issues and am trying to not be so submissive in nature, yet even in my personal relationships I tend to be drawn to strong personalities that dominate me. At least I am aware of it and trying to choose more positive relationships."
  It is this awareness that will make the difference for you. It's often a long road to break these patterns but being aware of them to begin with is the first step. You're doing great!
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  Abusers and Abusees love the org...

  by tall penguin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my experience, those who become jw's as adults (not born in) could be described as abusers or abusees.

  more often than not, they have unresolved issues of abuse from their past and gravitate to the structure of the org to re-experience the controlling, abusive environment of their past as the victim or the perpetrator.

  from what i've seen, the more these past abuse issues are dealt with, the less of a hold the org has on a person.

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  Thanks Lady Lee. I just find it so interesting that just about everyone I know who converted to jw as an adult fits into the abusee/abuser category. And I've also noticed that the more help these ones get (as in therapy or education) the less likely they are to stay witnesses or be active. My experience anyhow.
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  Abusers and Abusees love the org...

  by tall penguin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my experience, those who become jw's as adults (not born in) could be described as abusers or abusees.

  more often than not, they have unresolved issues of abuse from their past and gravitate to the structure of the org to re-experience the controlling, abusive environment of their past as the victim or the perpetrator.

  from what i've seen, the more these past abuse issues are dealt with, the less of a hold the org has on a person.

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  R6laser, The wts is not the only framework that would attract those with abuse in their pasts. I'm asking what people's experience has been, attempting to understand patterns. Thanks for not getting it.
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  Pioneer Sister's "No Blood Keyrings"

  by Clam in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here's a product on ebay.

  it's a keyring to hang off your minsistry bag.

  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/jehovahs-witness-no-blood-keyring_w0qqitemz6613386991qqcategoryz3628qqsspagenamezwdvwqqrdz1qqcmdzviewitem.

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  LOL!!!
  Thanks for the laugh Clam. I really needed that.
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  Abusers and Abusees love the org...

  by tall penguin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my experience, those who become jw's as adults (not born in) could be described as abusers or abusees.

  more often than not, they have unresolved issues of abuse from their past and gravitate to the structure of the org to re-experience the controlling, abusive environment of their past as the victim or the perpetrator.

  from what i've seen, the more these past abuse issues are dealt with, the less of a hold the org has on a person.

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  bttt (I'd like to hear more comments on this)
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  Venus and Serena Williams' Book

  by tall penguin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw venus and serena on oprah the other day talking to teens and promoting their book, "serving from the hip: 10 rules for living, loving and winning.

  " so when i got in to work today at the bookstore, i decided to have a look.

  it's a great book for teens.

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  So I've been stewing over this for the past few days and I've decided to write a letter to Oprah and the Williams gals. I think it's important that they are aware of how the wts affects the average youth in its midst. I've got a first draft. It's 6 pages! I'll edit it and share it with you all later.
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  Disfellowshipped and lonely

  by ryry in

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  2. friends

  i was disfellowshipped in 2003. systematically my family stopped talking to me.

  i am only 22 years old and i feel a big void in my life.

  what can i do to feel better?

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  Welcome to the board ryry. I've been disfellowshipped in the past. I am now disassociated and happy to have left on my terms. I understand the anguish you are feeling. So many of us here have been through it. You've come to the right place. Read the "Best of" section here and educate yourself on the wt's policies and history. Empower yourself with education.
  Take it one step at a time. Talk about what ever is on your mind here. We're listening.
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  Venus and Serena Williams' Book

  by tall penguin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw venus and serena on oprah the other day talking to teens and promoting their book, "serving from the hip: 10 rules for living, loving and winning.

  " so when i got in to work today at the bookstore, i decided to have a look.

  it's a great book for teens.

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  I saw Venus and Serena on Oprah the other day talking to teens and promoting their book, "Serving from the Hip: 10 Rules for Living, Loving and Winning." So when I got in to work today at the bookstore, I decided to have a look.
  It's a great book for teens. Tips on doing well in school, learning self-respect, valuing friendships, taking care of yourself emotionally and physically, obtaining financial security, and overcoming setbacks. Great life lessons for your average teen. Unfortunately, the advice given will not be easily applied by their fellow "brothers and sisters" your average jw teens.
  I got really steamed up reading their book. They talk about how important it is to have dreams and work towards them. Dreams? I don't remember being allowed to have dreams. Oh wait, pioneering. Yup, that was the only dream I was allowed to have as a good little dub.
  And then the advice about how important education is. Again, tying this to living your dream. I wonder how many young jw's will read their book and wonder why they can't go to university without being chastized. Which leads to their advice on not caring what anyone else thinks, but God, of course. They even mention asking themselves the question "What would God want me to do?"
  In the section on friends, they quote 1 Cor. 15:33 from the nwt, cleverly disguised as "The Bible". They also mention how they study the Bible everyday, even when they're on the road for tennis tours and how this keeps them in line.
  At the end of the book, it speaks of the importance of charity work and how they give lots to their spiritual community. I bet they do. And I wonder if that's why they are allowed a different lifestyle than the jw teens who look up to them.
  They are also supporters of their mother's charity foundation called The Owl Foundation whose mission is "to fund programs that address learning problems for individuals who experience academic failure. Its mission is to ensure that every child is treated individually and is provided with the opportunity to reach his or her full potential."
  Helping kids reach their full potential...hmmm...I don't know many kids in jw land that will ever reach their full potential.
  I wonder if Oprah knows how hypocritical her young guests really are.
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